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Investigate using a battery bank so we don't have to run the gennies all the time. The Hondas we have are capable of charging 12V automotive batteries. The question is, would that be a net gain? Would we spend more in batteries than we'd save in gasoline? Is it worth it for the lower carbon footprint? I bow to Edwin's superior knowledge of all things electrical. :-) Let's strike this one. -Matt -- Of course investing in battery electricy storage would lead to lower cost of entry into solar powered electricty down the line.....<br />More, better ways to stay comfortable in 100-degree weather. Better fans? Yes! Cold foot baths? Yes! Misters? Yes! (Would those take too much water? Maybe, but still Yes?) I'd still rather avoid air conditioners -- power hungry beasts, they produce a lot of waste heat which warms the surroundings, and they generally need sealed rooms which is kind of antisocial. There are already climate-controlled structures at Flipside for people who need them. (kibitz by Edwin!) (&quot;Swamp Coole]]></description>
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Investigate using a battery bank so we don't have to run the gennies all the time. The Hondas we have are capable of charging 12V automotive batteries. The question is, would that be a net gain? Would we spend more in batteries than we'd save in gasoline? Is it worth it for the lower carbon footprint? I bow to Edwin's superior knowledge of all things electrical. :-) Let's strike this one. -Matt -- Of course investing in battery electricy storage would lead to lower cost of entry into solar powered electricty down the line.....<br />More, better ways to stay comfortable in 100-degree weather. Better fans? Yes! Cold foot baths? Yes! Misters? Yes! (Would those take too much water? Maybe, but still Yes?) I'd still rather avoid air conditioners -- power hungry beasts, they produce a lot of waste heat which warms the surroundings, and they generally need sealed rooms which is kind of antisocial. There are already climate-controlled structures at Flipside for people who need them. (kibitz by Edwin!) (&quot;Swamp Coole]]></description>
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Infinite petrol tank for the generators. We can buy a kit for $100, or figure out how to do it ourselves... -Matt<br />Better floor plan for ... all public spaces... to integrate them better<br /> week?<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> --Edwin!</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> --Edwin! What about solar rechargeable path lighting? --Randy</span><br />LED Rope Light<br />LED ambient color/mood wash light and in UV<br />Thing strip like electrical wire labels<br />Sticky paper labels<br /> time...<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> -Matt</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> -Matt I may have fewer years left in me than 20 years ago, but I'm in better shape now than I was then... I'm not going quietly. --Randy</span><br />Get one of these! We could do remote interviews, recording, etc. and take it back to the lounge for broadcast within minutes! Zoom H2 (See also amazon.com)<br />A DAT deck or something like that to record our DJ sets and live acts for posterity, maybe? Or a cassette deck if we're feeling cheap.<br />Beer/cider label adhesive that stays on when immersed in water but can be scraped off relatively easily so the bottles can b]]></description>
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Beer/cider label adhesive that stays on when immersed in water but can be scraped off relatively easily so the bottles can be reused. Either that or a keg/CO2 system. (Update: Wow! I had no idea these things were so cheap! How about a 6-liter Tap-A-Draft system? Most of the parts at Austin Homebrew are under $10 apiece. I can't find pricing on the CO2 regulator, though...) Or coding by bottlecap color? A quick search does not reveal nicely pre-colored caps; so, stencils or sharpies could work. --Edwin!<br />Investigate using a battery bank so we don't have to run the gennies all the time. The Hondas we have are capable of charging 12V automotive batteries. The question is, would that be a net gain? Would we spend more in batteries than we'd save in gasoline? Is it worth it for the lower carbon footprint? I bow to Edwin's superior knowledge of all things electrical. :-) Let's strike this one. -Matt -- Of course investing in battery electricy storage would lead to lower cost of entry into solar powered electricty]]></description>
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Consolidate all music on one external drive (Matt, I'll go fifty-fifty witcha and we can buy a big drive) Deal! And a dedicated low- to mid-range laptop as well, maybe. -Matt<br />raid-1 mirror please. --Randy<br /> And<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> Geeky!</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> Geeky! I'd much rather get a laptop of some kind so we don't have to screw with an external monitor, keyboard,and mouse next time. Makes everything easier. -Matt</span><br />Bring my DJ mixing surface this time, with DJ software, for better control<br />Firewire/USB sound thingie, for previewing tracks while playing<br />]]></description>
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Consolidate all music on one external drive (Matt, I'll go fifty-fifty witcha and we can buy a big drive) Deal! And a dedicated low- to mid-range laptop as well, maybe. -Matt<br />raid-1 mirror please. --Randy<br /> macs...<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> -Sean</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> -Sean Bah! Linux!!! Anyway. How about this? It can hold CD/DVD drive, a harddrive and plug-ins for all sorts of memory cards. Friendly! And Geeky!</span><br />Bring my DJ mixing surface this time, with DJ software, for better control<br />Firewire/USB sound thingie, for previewing tracks while playing<br />]]></description>
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Consolidate all music on one external drive (Matt, I'll go fifty-fifty witcha and we can buy a big drive) Deal! And a dedicated low- to mid-range laptop as well, maybe. -Matt<br />raid-1 mirror please. --Randy<br /> nothing.<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> -Matt</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> -Matt  Here, here! If someone brings a windoze box please make it in addition to, not in place of, the macs... -Sean</span><br />Bring my DJ mixing surface this time, with DJ software, for better control<br />Firewire/USB sound thingie, for previewing tracks while playing<br />applesauce<br />Lunch food in general<br /> All<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> the</span> coolers<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> had</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> seemed to have</span> personal names etc... So at least for clueless out-of-town newbies to your camp like myself, it was unclear what was communal/part of what we paid for, and what was personal. So by default I only ate what was pointed out to me and there was a lot more wasted food/drink than necessary. Super easy fix: strip of blue (or other unusual color) tape on all containers of communal food. -Sean<br />]]></description>
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applesauce<br />Lunch food in general<br /><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">Everything! All the coolers had personal names etc... So at least for clueless out-of-town newbies to your camp like myself, it was unclear what was communal/part of what we paid for, and what was personal. So by default I only ate what was pointed out to me and there was a lot more wasted food/drink than necessary. Super easy fix: strip of blue (or other unusual color) tape on all containers of communal food. -Sean</span><br />]]></description>
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cookies (but this was possibly the heat)<br />crackers<br /> throat.<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> -Matt</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> -Matt I ate it too, and think we should keep it - but we did overbuy, according to the boxes in my dining room. I liked the granola;what were your preferences?</span><br />Food that needs to be prepped or pointed out:<br />Fruit (apples, oranges)<br />]]></description>
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cookies (but this was possibly the heat)<br />crackers<br /> it.<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> --Rob</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> --Rob Actually, I liked having it there as well -- when I had an 8AM ranger shift it was good to be able to cram some quick, easy breakfast down my throat. -Matt</span><br />Food that needs to be prepped or pointed out:<br />Fruit (apples, oranges)<br />]]></description>
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cookies (but this was possibly the heat)<br />crackers<br /> most<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> days)</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> days) I ate a bowl of cereal and milk every morning, and really enjoyed having that around, but clearly I was the only one eating it. --Rob</span><br />Food that needs to be prepped or pointed out:<br />Fruit (apples, oranges)<br />]]></description>
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Central illumination at the group rest area (which could happen by default by better integrating the spaces) --Eh, maybe a little more, esp in kitchen, but it was nice to have a nice calm, feeling place in the dark to look at the stars and chitchat. I would like the radio lounge less isolated from the main camp hang out. Perhaps we could have do that, having a larger and slightly more public illuminated place, and have a darker more private spot next to that. I think we should give thought to camp arrangment in the preplanning.<br />Another vote for a hangout space that's dark.. because that can have a good view of the public road in front of the camp, passers-by, effivgy etc, plus a nice view of the stars. That's a great thing to have while relaxing and chatting with campmates; bright lights in that area eliminate that. But perhaps a more private, bright, second hangout space separate from that makes sense? That way, those who prefer high visibility/illumination can be accomodated, and those who prefer a view ]]></description>
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Consolidate all music on one external drive (Matt, I'll go fifty-fifty witcha and we can buy a big drive) Deal! And a dedicated low- to mid-range laptop as well, maybe. -Matt<br />raid-1 mirror please. --Randy<br /> music<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> station</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> station The problem wasn't it being a Mac, it was iTunes being braindead. We'll have better-configured and different software next year. But I still think a component CD player is worthwhile. We can probably find one for practically nothing. -Matt</span><br />Bring my DJ mixing surface this time, with DJ software, for better control<br />Firewire/USB sound thingie, for previewing tracks while playing<br />Thing strip like electrical wire labels<br />Sticky paper labels<br /> church<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> night...</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> night... I suspect we'll be allowed a larger advance crew next year, what with our good showing this time... -Matt</span><br />Get one of these! We could do remote interviews, recording, etc. and take it back to the lounge for broadcast within minutes! Zoom H2 (See also amazon.com)<b]]></description>
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Actual whiteboards of whiteboardiness (Silona, it's time to put that poor thing to rest...)<br />Consolidate all music on one external drive (Matt, I'll go fifty-fifty witcha and we can buy a big drive) Deal! And a dedicated low- to mid-range laptop as well, maybe. -Matt<br /><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">raid-1 mirror please. --Randy</span><br />External CD player that does not give ONE WHIT about the interwebs --Or just a non-mac music station<br />Bring my DJ mixing surface this time, with DJ software, for better control<br />]]></description>
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Beer/cider label adhesive that stays on when immersed in water but can be scraped off relatively easily so the bottles can be reused. Either that or a keg/CO2 system. (Update: Wow! I had no idea these things were so cheap! How about a 6-liter Tap-A-Draft system? Most of the parts at Austin Homebrew are under $10 apiece. I can't find pricing on the CO2 regulator, though...) Or coding by bottlecap color?<br />Investigate using a battery bank so we don't have to run the gennies all the time. The Hondas we have are capable of charging 12V automotive batteries. The question is, would that be a net gain? Would we spend more in batteries than we'd save in gasoline? Is it worth it for the lower carbon footprint? I bow to Edwin's superior knowledge of all things electrical. :-) Let's strike this one. -Matt -- Of course investing in battery electricy storage would lead to lower cost of entry into solar powered electricty down the line.....<br /> of<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> ice...</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> ice... -- Please remember that we had several people</span>]]></description>
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LED color-change rope light<br />More Fireballs (e.g. Creamora Fireballs) (don't tell Marla)<br /><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">A chillout space with a better view of the front road / effigy / passing friends and freaks.</span><br />Central illumination at the group rest area (which could happen by default by better integrating the spaces) --Eh, maybe a little more, esp in kitchen, but it was nice to have a nice calm, feeling place in the dark to look at the stars and chitchat. I would like the radio lounge less isolated from the main camp hang out. Perhaps we could have do that, having a larger and slightly more public illuminated place, and have a darker more private spot next to that. I think we should give thought to camp arrangment in the preplanning.<br /><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">Another vote for a hangout space that's dark.. because that can have a good view of the public road in front of the camp, passers-by, effivgy etc, plus a nice view of the stars. That's a great thing to have while relaxing and chatting with campmates; bright lights in that area eli</span>]]></description>
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That camping spot -- the size was perfect (we all fit! with extra room!), near the Rangers, on the Hill, surrounded by bushes, view of the Effigy...<br />Mic Stands and Spare Mics! We used the two outside mikes twice (at least) for live performances, plus the inside mic. In theory, we might have even needed three or four outside mics, but So-Han's partner was ill.<br /> --<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> Edwin!)</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> Edwin!) Once Dave and I found the second water cooler, we had one of water and one of lemonade, and that was great. The lemonade jug is fine, we've used it for punch and such in the past - it's large mouthed and easy to clean. I would not dare put flavored stuff in a camelbak. - Sofia</span><br />Cold Cloths on pulse points, oh yeah (Now I'm stealing shamelessly from Michelle's e-mail)<br />Ice Cream<br />LED color-change rope light<br />More Fireballs (e.g. Creamora Fireballs) (don't tell Marla)<br /> and<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> chitchat.</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> chitchat. I would like the radio lounge less isolated from the main camp hang out. Perhaps we could h</span>]]></description>
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Floors. OMG I loved having floors in the radio lounge, carpets in the shade area, etc etc.<br />I love the way we creatively and cooperatively rolled through all of our rough spots. The logo-concept-workups-to-stickers sequence was inspiring.<br /> etc...<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> jim)</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> jim) -- I saw one thereand checked by peeling off --they came off fairly easily.If we ditch most of them tagging our stuff, the next batch I order will be removeable.</span><br />SHOWER RADIOS! (Big Hit!)<br />Radios and flyer/stickers at the Greeters (maybe with a note on them saying, &quot;Please don't stick this on the port-o-johns...)<br />]]></description>
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Used in Kitchen for All Food Products, with Labels on the shelves<br />Stored in Edwin's Garage off-season (heh heh heh)<br /> but<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> different.</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> different. --teh awesome</span><br />MORE FANS<br />Ant suppression via the early infrastructure crew Orange oil? -Matt Yup, and I hear Cinamon works as well -- Edwin!<br />LED color-change rope light<br />More Fireballs (e.g. Creamora Fireballs) (don't tell Marla)<br /> the<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> spaces)</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> spaces) --Eh, maybe a little more, esp in kitchen, but it was nice to have a nice calm, feeling place in the dark to look at the stars and chitchat.</span><br />!@#$% permanent wind break panels (I have a plan... - Edwin)<br />Two-way handheld radios (errrrr, walkie-talkies) with good quality sound and range, with headphone jacks, for live broadcasts and news reporting. Zoom H2! See below. -Matt<br />Battery-charging station out front WITH SIGN with many types of plugs &amp; adapters, so people can fill up their DeWalts, USB devices, etc etc...<br />Another wattmeter or two, that thi]]></description>
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  <author>email.hidden@example.com (Matt P.)</author>
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David &amp;amp; Sofia<br />$200<br /> &amp;amp;<span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;"> Mindy</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;"> Mindy (refunded)</span><br />$150<br />Sheilagh<br />$120<br />Randy Posey<br /><span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">$120</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">$80</span><br />Corprew<br />$100<br /><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">Tanjent<br />$80</span><br />TOTAL<br /><span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">$1835</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">$1725</span><br />*not yet collected<br />**gave another $40 last night...<br />More Radios<br />Chris<br /><span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">$142</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">$90 (paid)</span><br />Radios and Batteries<br />Sofia<br />$105<br />TOTAL<br /><span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">$1709 +/- $25</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">$1632-$1682</span><br />** I owe Chris 'n' Mindy for some of the radios but they might be included in the Chris radio slot. Also, I'm flexible about whether this is a donation or an expense or some combination. - Sofia<br />The struck-through stuff were my donation to the group. Exclude them from any reimbursement scheme. I've removed them from the totals.<br />$223<br />Chris<br /><span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">$142</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">$90 (paid)</span><br />Sofia<br /><span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">$175 +/- $25</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">$150-$200</span><br />TOTAL<br /><span style="color:red;background-color:#fcc;">$1709 +/- $25</span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:#cfc;">$1632-$1682</span><br />I'll put in the numbers for the p]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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